Tesla’s 4680 battery cell is 'brilliant' according to industry experts (2024)

Tesla CEO Elon Musk showed the road to 56% cheaper batteries in the near future. How? Breakthrough innovations in cell chemistry and materials, simplifying and speeding up cell manufacturing processes, astructural battery, and the company's new 4680 form factor. So what do the experts think of Tesla's battery innovations?

According toBusiness Insider,a "top battery researcher" watched Tesla's Battery Day and concluded: "I give it an A-plus." Who's this expert?Shirley Meng isEditor-in-Chief of MRS Energy & Sustainability andhas been working in the field for over a decade.She's also founding director of the Sustainable Power and Energy Centerat the University of California San Diego where she's also involved in nano-engineering and materials science.

"It's completely new as far as I know,"Meng says of Tesla's new 4680 battery concept. "Academic groups haven't been looking at this design. We usually don't talk about batteries of this scale."The tab-less design of the new Tesla cell is "brilliant," she noted. "It's really an engineering achievement."

"The tab side used to be the weakest link," she explained. "Tesla gets a 10 out of 10 for handing this difficult issue."

Mengsays, "I look forward to studying it in more detail." In the meantime, it turns out someone else has alreadybegun preliminary investigations into Tesla's next-gen battery.

Reverse engineering (and vehicle teardown) autoexpert Sandy Munro has been working to figure out Tesla's secrets for years.In fact, he recently revealed some of his findings related to the Tesla's motors and inverters. After Battery Day, he decided to turn his attention to Tesla's new 4680. When asked about it, Munro confessed, "I'm super-duper geeked. I really like what's going on."

Why? To uncover the many reasons, Munro presents a comprehensive overviewon his YouTube channelMunro Live. To start, according tohis calculations, in the same space as a current 74 kWhTesla Model Ybattery pack, a 130 kWh battery pack can be accommodated — that’s about double the energy storage.


Fig 2: 4680 vs. 2170 cell Tesla battery pack— more energy storage in the same battery pack space (Source:MunroLive.com)

The 2170 cell is 5000 mAh and Munro’s analysis says the 4680 new Tesla cell will be around ~9000 mAH. Currently, 4,416 (2170) cells are placed insideTesla Model 3/Y Long-Range battery packs. In contrast, there will only be 960 cells required to fill the same space (see Fig 2 above).

In addition, the 4680 cell-based battery pack will be much simpler and cheaper to build. The 2170 based battery pack architecture is made of cells divided into 4 modules and further into bricks of 46 cells each.


Fig 3: A total of ~960 new 4680 battery cells fit in the same packaging space (Source: Tesla/MunroLive.com).

This complexity will be eliminated by using the new 4680 cell design and coupled with the tabless cell construction, the manufacturing process becomes even simpler (requiring fewer parts).

During Tesla'sBattery Day presentation, Elon Musk showed the dissection of 2170 vs. 4680 battery pack. The cooling tubes are now at the bottom of the battery pack.

Fig 4: Battery coolant channels in a 2170 cell battery pack in a Tesla (Source:MunroLive.com/ TeslaOracle.com)

According to Munro, the right way to cool down the batteries is from the top and bottom. Currently, in the 2170 battery packs, the cells are cooled from the sides. However, in the future, Tesla is planning to do it the right way — installing a cooling plate underneath the batteries.

Munro also measured the length of the steel case cover of 2170 battery cells. By doing so,he estimates that with a lower number of 4680 cells, Tesla will be able to reduce around 30-40% of the steel used in the battery pack (see Fig 5 below).


Fig 5: Usage of steel reduces about 30-40% with the new 4680 battery cells (Source:MunroLive.com)

In addition,cost and time savings resulting from the new 4680 cells will come from reducing the number of connections between the cells. With fewer cells, the new battery pack will require around 1,800 connections compared to the current packs with ~8,800 wire tabs.

Munro then goes on to praise theinnovativeapproachof the single-piece front and rear underbody castings. This happens to be a revolutionary concept he's been passionately promoting since 2017. But no automakerwanted toadopt it. Until now. Until Tesla. "This is the way to go," says Munro. "It's brilliant."

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Written by:Iqtidar Ali. An earlier version of this article was originallypublished onTesla Oracle.

Tesla’s 4680 battery cell is 'brilliant' according to industry experts (2024)

FAQs

What is special about the 4680 battery? ›

4680 is a new cell format enabled by new technologies, like tabless cells, developed by Tesla. It was first unveiled in 2020 with promises of enabling significantly lower cost, more range, and gaster charging. It was a big bet for Tesla, which had never produced cells before.

What is the problem with 4680 battery production? ›

Tesla Considers Halting 4680 Battery Production at GigaTexas Due to Cost and Performance Issues- EnergyTrend. On June 26, it was reported that Tesla is considering halting the production of 4680 batteries at its GigaTexas factory in Texas due to unsatisfactory energy density, charging performance, and higher costs.

What is the life expectancy of the Tesla 4680 battery? ›

Dahn revealed that, after three years of testing, he found that his cells had a lifespan of over two million miles. He has tested his battery over 20,000 cycles at a depth of charge-discharge of 100%, and found that his battery can last 15,000 cycles and still have 90% of its capacity.

Will the 4680 battery increase range? ›

Higher energy density: This means that the 4680 battery can store more energy per unit volume or weight than other batteries. This results in longer driving ranges and lower battery weights for electric vehicles.

Is the Tesla 4680 battery better than the 2170? ›

On the other hand, the volume of the 4680 cells is 5.7 times that of a 2170 lithium battery. The biggest advantage of the new Tesla 4680 battery is that it can produce more battery energy capacity with less raw materials in general.

Is the Tesla 4680 battery solid state? ›

The Tesla 4680 battery's electrolyte does not qualify as solid state, but it may surprise you (as it did us) that solid-state batteries have been in production vehicles for some time.

Why is my Tesla losing battery so fast? ›

The term 'vampire drain' refers to the loss of battery power in your parked Tesla, which can leave your battery drained. This occurs due to the continuous power consumption of various systems such as the alarm, keyless entry, and infotainment system, which can result in a decrease in the car's battery level.

Why is my Tesla battery degrading? ›

Over time, you may see a gradual, but natural, decrease in range at full charge – this depends on factors such as Supercharging regularly or the mileage and age of the battery. Your Tesla will inform you in the unlikely event a hardware issue is causing excessive battery or range degradation.

What is the life cycle of 4680? ›

The cycle life of a 4680 battery vs 18650 battery is between 1000 and 2000 cycles depending on the charging method, while the latter has between 1500 and 4000 cycles. 4680 batteries are considered ternary lithium batteries, with a shorter cycle life because they are now only utilized in electric vehicles.

Do Tesla batteries really last 500000 miles? ›

A battery is the most expensive component of a Tesla (or any electric vehicle). So before you consider getting one, you probably want to know how long a Tesla battery lasts. A Tesla battery goes approximately 303 to 405 miles on a full charge and is reported to last about 300,000 to 500,000 miles over its lifespan.

Can Tesla battery last 20 years? ›

How Long Does a Tesla Battery Last? - Find Tesla charging stations near you. Generally, electric vehicle batteries last 10-20 years, but some factors may reduce their lifespan. For instance, batteries may degrade faster in hotter climates as heat does not pair well with EVs.

Can a Tesla last 15 years? ›

The U.S. Department of Energy uses 15,000 miles a year as its assumed standard range of annual driving for consumers, which would put Tesla's battery life at between 20 and 33 years. Assuming a single charge a day, that timeframe would involve between 7,300 and 12,045 charge cycles.

What range should I keep my Tesla battery? ›

According to Battery University: The optimum state of charge for lithium-ion batteries is 50%. That means that if your driving distance for a given day is low, you should be operating between 60% and 40%. On a Tesla, it's easy to set the maximum state of charge. I just reduced mine from 80% to 60%.

What is the advantage of a Tesla 4680 battery? ›

The 4680 battery boasts higher energy density compared to its predecessors. This means more energy can be stored within the same volume, translating to extended driving ranges for electric vehicles and improved performance for energy storage applications.

Who invented the 4680 battery? ›

Tesla 4680, a lithium-ion battery cell developed by Tesla, Inc.

What is the difference between 4680 and 18650 battery? ›

The 4680 battery has a faster charging time than the 18650 battery. It can charge up to 80% in just 15 minutes, while the 18650 battery takes around 45 minutes to charge up to 80%.

Does the Tesla 4680 battery use cobalt? ›

Tesla's new 4680 batteries are cobalt free.

What cars have the 4680 battery? ›

Tesla has expanded its Model Y lineup by adding the Dual Motor AWD variant, powered by the innovative 4680 battery cells.

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