Impressions Of The Tesla Model Y With 4680 Battery Cells (2024)

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When Tesla unveiled its 4680 battery cells at the Battery Day event in 2020, the company announced a new, tab-less 4680 cell form factor which would increase energy density, maintain similar thermal characteristics of smaller cells, improve the power-to-weight ratio, streamline manufacturing, and lower cost.

At the Giga Texas opening ceremony, Tesla did not share the specs of the refreshed Model Y, and all the vehicles at the time went to Tesla employees. According to the Battery Day presentation, the 4680 cells and structural battery pack design were expected to increase vehicle range by as much as 54%, decrease the weight of the vehicle, improve acceleration, and be less expensive and more sustainable to produce.

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In late 2020, Musk announced that Tesla aimed to halve the costs of the most expensive part of an EV by producing its own batteries. Tesla’s 4680 lithium-ion batteries — with 46-millimeter diameter and 80-millimeter length — hold about 5 times the energy of its current smaller 2170 cells. Tesla can use a smaller number of new cells for the same energy and driving range, reducing costs.

Since the Battery Day company event, updates on the 4680 battery innovations have been fairly hush-hush.

Instead, the 2170 cells used in the Model Y and produced in the Fremont Factory and Gigafactory Berlin have taken center stage. Tesla’s last-generation 2170 cells are in non-structural battery packs that offer a 318-mile EPA range, 4.8 0 to 60 mph time, and come at a starting price of $67,990 in the Model Y package.

In January, Panasonic announced its intention to invest $700 million to expand its battery factory in Wakayama prefecture, Japan, and bring in new equipment to manufacture the new 4680 battery cells developed by Tesla. When completed, the factory will be capable of producing about 10 gigawatt-hours per year of the new batteries, enough to power about 150,000 electric vehicles. That is about 20% of the company’s total battery manufacturing capacity from its factories in Japan, the US, and other countries.

At the beginning of this year, Tesla employees celebrated the milestone of one million 4680 cylindrical lithium-ion battery cells. The cells are part of the structural battery packs to be incorporated into the all-electric company’s catalog, beginning with the Model Y vehicles produced at Giga Texas.

At this writing, the Austin plant is Tesla’s sole plant that is building cars using structural batteries.

Samsung SDI is Preparing a Pilot for Tesla 4680 Batteries

Samsung SDI is configuring a pilot line at its Cheonan, South Korea, plant to test 4680 cylinder batteries it will supply to Tesla, according to information released by South Korea’s The Elec. The plant will prepare at least two versions of the battery, with the alternative version reported to be shorter than 80 mm in length. The actual mass production line will likely be built at Samsung SDI’s battery plant in Seremban, Malaysia.

Samsung Electronics vice chairman Lee Jae-yong confirmed the production of the 4680 battery cells during a recent European visit.

The pilot line being prepared at Cheonan has an annual capacity slightly below 1 GWh with 20 ppm production speed. The aim is to increase production speed to between 200 to 300 ppm, which will equal between 8GWh to 12GWh of annual production capacity.

Samsung SDI added 2170 cylinder battery production there last year. The plant began making cylinder batteries back in 2012.

Really Fast Model Y Charging with 4680 Battery Cells

Meanwhile, a Tesla Model Y owner attests that a Texas-made Tesla Model Y with 4680 battery cells has been able to complete a charging session from 0% to 97% in 52 minutes.

Relating the view that “electric cars aren’t the future, they are here & now,” Ryan Levenson of The Kilowatts designed an experiment in which he drove the Model Y until its battery showed 0 miles of range. No limiters were revealed when Levenson reached 0 miles. Then Levenson plugged into a Supercharger V3 station. The entrepreneur noted that the Texas-made Model Y’s charging curve immediately jumped to 250 kW when it was plugged in, as compared to previous Tesla data that indicated a more gradual increase to 250 kW.

In under an hour, the Model Y gained 270 miles of range, consistent with the Dual Motor Model Y specs of 279 miles range per charge on a full battery.

In an email to Teslarati, Levenson mused about the yet unexplored possibilities of the 4680 battery cells.

“Collecting this data opens more questions for me rather than answering them. Like why was my regenerative braking not limited even when the pack was full, and why wasn’t my acceleration limited when I was near empty? For me, it’s indicating that there’s something big we don’t yet know or understand about the 4680 pack. Sure, it’s wishful thinking, but it absolutely could mean there’s more capacity to these new Austin-built Dual Motor Model Ys than Tesla is advertising or letting us access at this time.”

While not a peer-reviewed research study, Levenson’s experiment suggests that Tesla’s 4680-equipped electric cars have some capabilities and advantages that have not been fully revealed by Tesla.

The claim supports a statement from Munro & Associates, which purchased a Texas-based Model Y for research purposes.

Our Austin built @Tesla Model Y is here! We have had it for less than 24 hours and the teardown has already begun. #MunroLive #SandyMunro #TeardownTitan pic.twitter.com/nL37jxmzV9

— Munro Live (@live_munro) June 30, 2022

According to new sources, Tesla has begun selling a second variant of the refreshed Model Y with 4680 cells & structural battery pack. The new vehicle, produced in Giga Texas, is a Model Y Long Range and starts $9,500 cheaper than the Long Range Model Y produced at Tesla’s Fremont California plant.

The 4680 Battery Cells on the Production Line

The Tesla teamdidn’t just look at one angle but all the angles: cell design,manufacturing, vehicle integration, and materials. The Battery Day intended outcomes have the potential to increase Tesla vehicles’ range while being more economical; the plan is to halve the cost per kilowatt-hour.

Major Chinese battery firms including CATL, EVE, and BAK Battery plan to start mass production of the 4680 cylindrical battery model this year. So, too, are LG and others.

The growing demand for rechargeable batteries that are fully scalable and sustainable are leading researchers to a holistic, closed-loop infrastructure for materials discovery, manufacturing and battery testing. It will likely take common data infrastructure and autonomous workflows to bridge big data from all domains of the battery value chain in order to provide a transformative reduction in the required time to discovery.

Multi-sensory and self-healing capabilities in future battery technologies, as well as integration physics-aware machine learning models capable of predicting the spatio-temporal evolution of battery materials and interfaces, are quite sought after. Success in this R&D will make it possible to identify, predict, and prevent potential degradation and failure modes. The result will be enhanced battery quality, reliability, and life.

Such successes will have to be strong enough to match a specific cell design like the Tesla 4680 battery cell without compromising the quality, reliability, and life of the battery cell.

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Impressions Of The Tesla Model Y With 4680 Battery Cells (2024)

FAQs

Will the 4680 battery increase the range in the Model Y? ›

Whereas the Long Range version with 2170 cells has an EPA-estimated driving range of 330 miles, the new 4680-cell Model Y has just 269 miles of range.

What are the benefits of 4680 Model Y? ›

Significantly increased battery power (6 times that of the 21700 battery), reduced battery costs, optimized heat dissipation performance, production efficiency, and charging speed, and further improved energy density and cycle performance; 2.

What happened to the 4680 Model Y? ›

Though it was used for a time in some Model Y produced at Gigafactory Texas. The limited use of the 4680 cells produced by Tesla is believed to have to do with the cell not being at the level Tesla planned, both on the performance side and on the cost side.

What is the life expectancy of the Tesla 4680 battery? ›

Typically, Tesla batteries are designed to last at least 8 years or around 100,000 to 150,000 miles, as per the warranty.

Why do new Model Y have less range? ›

The changes seem to be related to a change in EPA testing for model year 2024, requiring automakers to average EPA mileage over several drive modes, not just the most advantageous one. It has long been known that Tesla “vastly” overstates its range on its cars.

Are 4680 cells better than 2170? ›

Tesla's new 4680 battery cell is 5.5 times larger than the 2170 cell it replaces, and is designed to store five times the energy while delivering 16 percent more driving range.

Do 4680 batteries charge faster? ›

Charge/Discharge rate

That cause the internal resistance of the 4680 battery is only one-fifth of that of the 2170 battery. Therefore, the estimated charging rate of the 4680 battery is faster than that of the 2170 battery.

How much is a Tesla Model Y battery replacement? ›

After labor charges, the total repair cost is about $20,000 to $22,000. For the Model 3, the replacement cost around $15,799.27, with the battery alone costing over $13,500 and labor costing $2,299.27. The Model Y's battery replacement cost is approximately $15,000, similar to the Model S.

How can I tell if my Model Y has 4680 cells? ›

Open your charging menu and click “set limit.” If you see the words daily and trip, then you have an NCA battery.
  1. This is what you'll see on your charging screen if you have a nickel-cobalt battery. ...
  2. LFP: Lithium-iron-phosphate, aka “the new guy” ...
  3. The 4680 “tabless” battery pack: aka “the revolutionary”
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Why did Tesla remove radar from Model Y? ›

Back in May 2021, Tesla announced that it was eliminating radar on its new cars in a push to switch to the so-called Tesla Vision approach, which only uses cameras to “see” the road and neural networks that are supposed to mimic the way a human brain works.

Will Tesla decrease Model Y price? ›

Elon Musk's electric-vehicle (EV) maker lowered the prices for its Model Y base variant to $42,990, while the long-range and performance variants are now priced at $47,990 and $51,490, respectively, according to its website. The basic version of the Model S now costs $72,990 and its plaid variant $87,990.

Do Tesla batteries really last 500000 miles? ›

A Tesla battery goes approximately 303 to 405 miles on a full charge and is reported to last about 300,000 to 500,000 miles over its lifespan. This article will explain how ranges vary between Tesla models, why different cars have different ranges, and how many miles various Tesla batteries last.

Will a Tesla battery last 20 years? ›

How Long Does a Tesla Battery Last? - Find Tesla charging stations near you. Generally, electric vehicle batteries last 10-20 years, but some factors may reduce their lifespan. For instance, batteries may degrade faster in hotter climates as heat does not pair well with EVs.

Which Tesla model has the longest battery life? ›

The Model S is known for having one of the longest ranges within the Tesla product line. Generally, the Model S is expected to offer a battery capacity of 95.0 kWh and an approximate range of 575 km on a single charge.

Will Model Y get range boost? ›

Tesla has started offering an “energy boost” software unlock to recent buyers of the Model Y RWD, allowing them to unlock more battery capacity – for a price.

How to increase range of Tesla Model Y? ›

Tips to Maximize Range

To achieve maximum range: Slow down your driving and avoid frequent and rapid acceleration. Consider using Chill Mode (touch Controls > Pedals & Steering > Acceleration) and Speed Assist (see Speed Assist) to assist in controlling your acceleration and speed.

What is the range of 4680 Model Y standard? ›

Manufactured at Gigafactory Texas, it was equipped with the new 4680 battery cells and structural battery pack technology rated at 279 miles (449 km) of EPA range. At first, this configuration was only available for employees, invited reservation holders, and customers residing in the Texas area.

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