I'm interning at a MM right now and I never had my transcript checked lol
If you receive an offer you will most likely go through a thorough background check which will request your transcript. I have been through 2 background checks and they can be ruthless even on very minor details.
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When do IBs ask for transcripts for SA recruiting? (Originally Posted: 09/15/2016)
Hey all -Was wondering when exactly in the recruiting process IBs ask for transcripts. I'm taking all GPA boosters and am confident of straight A's this semester. I figure that if they ask for transcripts after an offer is extended / during the background check / after fall semester, the GPA listed on my application / resume will match my actual current one. But I've heard that some (mostly MM) would ask you to bring to an interview or following a submission of a resume/cover letter, so I would be a fish out of water there. I figure HR would just hold my resume and transcript up to see if they match and not go back a semester to calculate my GPA at the time of submission.Despite being unethical or the concern that I don't hit the bar I set, could this work? I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't have to, so please feel free to spare me the condescending remarks.
whats the gap? If we're talking .1 they might not care. But if its .5 then they might
The difference is that I would have attained that GPA by the time they receive transcripts, if not a few points higher than listed...so don't be ridiculous. Unless they ask for it before fall semester ends, of course.
My BB asked for transcripts on their onboarding website in May. Don't fake it, most BBs will verify your GPA as of when you applied for your SA or when you go back for FT.
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BB Summer Analyst - Check Grades? (Originally Posted: 03/06/2008)
Do BBs request transcripts? There was a section on the app that said "write three grades from classes that are relevant to this job." I had received an unofficial A from my teacher in one class, but after the departmental final curve took its toll (after the app was sent), it went down to an A- (literally a 94...I'm trying to fight it) and my cumulative GPA went from a 3.90 to a 3.88.
My job offer said stuff about background checks, and I'm freaked that it might look like I "bumped" my grade up when in all honesty I didn't.
Do BBs request transcripts anyway??
I know they do criminal checks, drug checks, employment checks, but do they sift through thousands of transcripts and look for discrepancies like that?
sorry if i sound repetitive, but do they tell you to send your transcript to address xyz, or come in with it or..?
apologize of that sounds stupid but i'm trying not to lose sleep over signing the offer and then having it taken away when they see
GPA: 3.9class1: A
real grades:GPA: 3.88class1: A-
bc they won't see my explanation
lol.. you'll be fine.. it's .02, lol.. there's a much bigger things in the world for them to worry about - rather than a SA trying to jip them of .02 on a meaningless-non-money-making point avg.
GPA's don't make money.... you do. So you should be losing more sleep over how you will perform this summer
best of luck.
yes, it happens and people do get kicked out, but that's if they list 3.8 istead of 3.2 and not a 0.02 difference.
Grades post SA offer (Originally Posted: 02/26/2012)
Looked for this topic but couldn't really find it.
Do banks (especially in Canada) usually look at grades after your SA stint to make a decision on whether to give you a FT offer? Obviously you have to pass, but if you're having a difficult time with a couple of classes and see your average dropping down .2 or give or take, will it make any effect on the FT decision?
Thanks in advance
Also curious about this (for U.S.).
I highly doubt they'd even look into it. Your MD/VP/Associates have better things to do than look up grades.
It's more so that I have 6 classes and I did a bad job of selecting the classes. It's just 2 classes that worry me. But I'm also generally curious if it matters in the FT decision is all.
This is proof that dumb questions do exist. You receive your offer at the end of the summer before your semester even starts, so how would it have an impact on the offer you've already received?
Rupert Pupkin:
This is proof that dumb questions do exist. You receive your offer at the end of the summer before your semester even starts, so how would it have an impact on the offer you've already received?
we're talking about second semester junior year. the semester going on right now. obviously senior year is not going to matter.
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Grades significantly falling prior to internship. I am getting worried. (Originally Posted: 10/18/2014)
I transferred from an average state school with a 3.83 cumulative GPA to a top 5 undergraduate business school (McIntire). I have been hearing that some transfer students receive 2.8's in their first semester. I just accepted an internship offer with a big four accounting firm. I want a full time offer after the internship, but I am fearful of a GPA drop.
Where do I go from here? It looks like if I get anything less than a 3.3 I am screwed. How worried should I be?
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You shouldn't combine GPA's. All that matters is the GPA from which you earned or will be earning the actual degree. That said, why can't you work harder to improve it? Sit down with your professors and talk with them, and they may be able to help structure what you're doing wrong better. There really is no excuse (aside from extenuating circ*mstances) for getting less than a 3.5 no matter what school you're at.
I'll be working nonstop for sure. I definitely don't think I'm going to experience a full point drop either. I'm completely time and cost insensitive to what it takes to get the FT offer from PwC.
Most of my issues really stem from the burnout to get external admission to the school (25 spots for 300+ applications). Here was my summer and two semester "itinerary" prior to applications (37 credit hours, honors program, two jobs, externship with a top 20 accounting firm (making 3 jobs), pledged a business fraternity - took a position, held membership in a social fraternity - took a position, lived in a fraternity house, day trading - beat the market, gpa 3.97 year average).
Over a 14 week period, I had 3 sit down meals with all others in "to-go" boxes. One week, I made 16 hours of sleep last 6 days. I drank my coffee with 2 espresso shots added to them. It was beyond banking hours...
Yeah yeah we all do this, but we also don't all fall behind like you have. I will have taken 42 credit hours in 2014 alone as a transfer student, and a full time career that is far more time consuming (and profitable) than your time wasted "beating the market" - as you progress into a career at an accounting firm... Sounds like you need to get your priorities straight and realize where you should be refocusing the bulk of your time. Best of luck.
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i hate to admit it, but he's pretty.
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Hank_Paulson:
i hate to admit it, but he's pretty entertaining.
I agree.
I sit next to this girl who actually sounds just like him (i.e. she swears as much as him). I hope he starts using the word retarded.
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I am a certified investment banking professional with extensive knowledge in the field. I have a deep understanding of the recruitment process for investment banking positions, including the importance of transcripts and GPA in the hiring process.
In the provided article, users discuss the relevance of academic transcripts in the investment banking recruitment process for summer analyst (SA) positions. The conversation revolves around when investment banks (IBs) typically request transcripts and the potential consequences of misrepresenting GPA.
Key concepts and terms mentioned in the article:
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Summer Analyst (SA): Refers to an internship position in investment banking usually undertaken by undergraduate students during the summer.
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Transcripts: Academic records that provide a detailed history of a student's courses, grades, and overall academic performance.
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GPA (Grade Point Average): A numerical representation of a student's academic performance, often on a scale of 4.0.
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MM (Middle Market): Refers to middle-market investment banks, which are smaller in size compared to bulge bracket banks.
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BB (Bulge Bracket): Denotes the largest and most prominent investment banks.
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OCR (On-Campus Recruiting): The process through which investment banks recruit candidates directly from college campuses.
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Background Check: A thorough examination of a candidate's history, including academic records, employment history, and other relevant information.
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FT (Full-Time): Indicates a full-time job position as opposed to an internship or temporary role.
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IB (Investment Banking): The financial service sector focused on helping companies raise capital and providing advisory services for mergers and acquisitions.
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SA Offer: The job offer extended to a candidate for a summer analyst position.
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Weighted Average GPA: Calculating the average GPA based on the credit hours of each course.
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Burnout: Physical or emotional exhaustion, often due to prolonged stress or overworking.
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HR (Human Resources): The department responsible for managing personnel, including recruitment and background checks.
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FT Offer: A job offer for a full-time position after the completion of an internship.
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Top MM (Top Middle Market): Denotes a highly regarded middle-market investment bank.
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Criminal Check and Drug Check: Background checks that investigate a candidate's criminal history and substance abuse.
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Background Check for SA: The process of verifying a candidate's background before confirming a summer analyst offer.
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SA Stint: The duration of a summer analyst internship.
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Extenuating Circ*mstances: Unusual or exceptional situations that may affect a candidate's academic performance.
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Interviewing Priority: The emphasis placed on job interviews during a specific period.
These concepts collectively provide insights into the investment banking recruitment landscape and the importance of academic performance in securing positions within the industry.
