Feeling broke on a $665K salary: This surgeon and his wife didn't realize their financial adviser may have been charging a high fee until Ramit Sethi set things straight (2024)

Jeff, 50, is a specialized surgeon. His wife Susan, 48, is a stay-at-home mom. Even though Jeff earns an enviable $665,000 a year, the couple — married 19 years — are still struggling to pay the bills.

Finance expert Ramit Sethi points out that people can have anxiety over money and bad spending habits whether they make $50,000 or $500,000 a year.

“If you feel bad about money at $50,000, you’re probably going to feel that way when you make 10 times your income,” he said during an episode of his podcast, “I Will Teach You To Be Rich.”

Don't miss

Jeff’s salary is high (his take-home pay, after taxes, is $426,000 a year), but he only started earning that much around the age of 40. As his income grew, the family’s discretionary spending ballooned.

Sethi points to some of the psychological issues at play. For example, Susan grew up without a lot of money, and while she often deprives herself of small expenditures like pedicures, she also has a hard time saying no to her kids when it comes to big-ticket items.

But, according to Sethi, one of their biggest problems has to do with their financial adviser. He regularly recommends that people avoid working with an adviser who charges a percentage of assets or assets under management (AUM). In other words, the more assets you have with a financial adviser, the more money they bill you (other advisors charge flat or hourly fees).

Aside from a whole life policy and an annuity, Jeff has two brokerage accounts managed by an adviser charging a fee of 1.24%.

“I generally feel as though most people are good and they’re not trying to rip us off,” Susan said.

But when she asked their financial adviser about his fee, “he told me, oh, it’s roughly around 1%. I’ll never forget, he made this face like, oh, it’s not that much.”

Sethi says he knows that face.

“Most advisers make their money when your portfolio grows, which is why they love older people and wealthy people who specifically do not understand commission structures,” he said.

Read more: Retire richer — why people who work with a financial advisor retire with an extra $1.3 million

Understanding the math behind AUM

Jeff and Susan have $460,000 in two brokerage accounts. If they live to age 85 — for another 35 years — without making any further contributions to these accounts, and assuming a conservative 5% return, that 1.24% fee adds up to a whopping $863,170, according to Sethi.

That’s because fees grow as your portfolio grows.

Right now, the couple pays about $6,000 a year in fees — about $500 a month. But fast-forward 35 years — 420 months — and they won’t be paying just $500 a month. Rather, they’ll be paying 1.24% on a much larger portfolio, averaging about $2,054 a month, according to Sethi.

“This is what happens with a 1.24% fee on a modest $460,000 portfolio that’s not even being added to,” says Sethi. “That 1.24% fee seems modest in the early days, but it’s back-loaded.”

Instead, Jeff and Susan could invest their money in a low-cost ETF or index fund and get a similar return — but with that extra $800,000 in their pocket funding their retirement, says Sethi.

The good news: You can still get out

So what can you do if you’re working with a financial adviser who charges you a percentage of assets and you want out?

The fees Jeff and Susan have paid up until now are a sunk cost. But the biggest step in this process is realizing you need to make a switch, says Sethi. The rest are just details — though it could mean uncomfortable conversation, especially if you’ve been working with the same financial adviser for many years.

Sethi recommends explaining to your financial adviser — preferably over email — that you’ve decided to move your brokerage account because the fees you’re paying are not part of your financial goals. By transferring your brokerage account in-kind, which means moving them as-is from one account to another, “you’re not selling them and triggering a taxable event,” he said

However, you may want to continue using a financial adviser. If you do, “you want to pay a flat fee, never a percentage,” he said.

What to read next

This article provides information only and should not be construed as advice. It is provided without warranty of any kind.

Feeling broke on a $665K salary: This surgeon and his wife didn't realize their financial adviser may have been charging a high fee until Ramit Sethi set things straight (2024)
Top Articles
Revealed: Liverpool City Region’s Investment Zone plans to supercharge health and life sciences and create 8,000 jobs | Growth Platform
Avallain increases impact with strategic investment in AI Platform, TeacherMatic
Flanagan-Watts Funeral Home Obituaries
Hoy Kilnoski Obituaries
Www.myschedule.kp.org
Enneagram Test Eclecticenergies Spotify
Parx Raceway Results
Leicht Perlig Biography
Cvs Tb Testing Cost
Wausau Pilot Obituaries
Mypdr
J/99 – der neue Hochseerenner
Slmd Skincare Appointment
Black Ballerina Michaela Mabinty DePrince morreu aos 29 anos
Keanu Reeves cements his place in action genre with ‘John Wick: Chapter 4’
Dupage County Fcrc
Staples Ups Drop Off
LeBron Glazing Poem / Boy Oh Boy, Where Do I Even Begin?
Famous Sl Couples Birthday Celebration Leaks
Devotion Showtimes Near Amc Classic Shiloh 14
Craigslist Truck
All Obituaries | Dante Jelks Funeral Home LLC. | Birmingham AL funeral home and cremation Gadsden AL funeral home and cremation
Often Fvded Barber Lounge
How to order half and half pizza dominoʼs online? - Chef's Resource
What is a Nutmeg in Soccer? (Explained!) - Soccer Knowledge Hub
What Does FYP Mean on TikTok?
Selfservice Bright Lending
A vintage funfair / fairground
Beachbodyondemand.com
Q Zangle Cvusd
FirstLight Power to Acquire Leading Canadian Renewable Operator and Developer Hydromega Services Inc. - FirstLight
Buffalo Bills Football Reference
Rocky Bfb Asset
Craigsliststcloud
Rhonda Rousey Nipple Slip
La Times Jumble Answer Today
Lawson Uhs
Zuercher Portal Inmates Kershaw County
Nail Supply Glamour Lake June
Witchwood Icon
Tmz Jennette Mccurdy And Joe
5417873087
Pensacola Tattoo Studio 2 Reviews
Fcs Punting Stats
Dimensional Doors Mod (1.20.1, 1.19.4) - Pocket Dimensions
Mnps Payroll Calendar 2022-23
The Complete Guide to Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD)
Mugshots In Waco Texas
Busted Newspaper Zapata Tx
13364 Nw 42Nd Street
2045 Union Ave SE, Grand Rapids, MI 49507 | Estately 🧡 | MLS# 24048395
7-11 Paystub Portal
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Ms. Lucile Johns

Last Updated:

Views: 6199

Rating: 4 / 5 (41 voted)

Reviews: 88% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Ms. Lucile Johns

Birthday: 1999-11-16

Address: Suite 237 56046 Walsh Coves, West Enid, VT 46557

Phone: +59115435987187

Job: Education Supervisor

Hobby: Genealogy, Stone skipping, Skydiving, Nordic skating, Couponing, Coloring, Gardening

Introduction: My name is Ms. Lucile Johns, I am a successful, friendly, friendly, homely, adventurous, handsome, delightful person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.