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Michael Burry is an outstanding #contrarian #investor and did exceptionally well during the 2006-2008 #us #housing crash. However, performance is not always repeatable and his next bets haven't paid off that well (at least the market views shared publicly - hedge fund long-term performance looks quite strong on a sharper ratio basis). Adam Khoo had a look at all of Michael Burry's recent predictions and he shared it with a #chart on X. Here's a summary: In 2005, Predicted the collapse of the subprime mortgage market-> Housing market crashes in 2008, Global Financial Crisis.On Dec 2015, he predicted that the stock market would crash within the next few months.-> SPX +11% Next 12 monthsOn May 2017, he predicted a global financial meltdown-> SPX +19% Next 12 monthsOn Sept 2019, he predicted that the stock market would crash due to a bubble in index ETFs-> SPX +15% Next 12 monthsOn March 2020, he revealed a massive bearish bet--> SPX +72% Next 12 monthsOn Feb 2021, he predicted that the stock market would crash due to a speculative bubble. Shorts Tesla.-> SPX +16% Next 12 monthsOn Sept 2022, he predicted that the stock market warned of more failures, bottom not hit yet.-> SPX +21% Next 11 monthsOn Jan 2023, he predicts a recession and new round of inflation. Says “ SELL”-> SPX +17% Year to DateOn Aug 2023, Reveals Short Positions on the SPY and QQQ#MichaelBurry #stockmarketcrash Source: Adam Khoo Trader

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The way you have framed this post implies that Burry has under performed the S&P500 during all these individual periods and this is of course not necessarily in case. Burry is not a passive investor - he owns a hedge fund which is actively managed. This analysis is only valuable to the extent that one can draw the lesson that "what Burry Tweets is not what Burry does". The S&P's performance should be compared against Scion Asset Management's overall performance, net of fees, during the same time period if one is to draw any conclusion regading Burry's ability to actually predict anything.

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With a 2.82 Sharpe since inception.

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To be fair to Burry, outside of his correct 2005 housing market call, the remainder of his predictions came during unprecedented quantitative easing and loose monetary policy, or the "Fed Put" era. He may have underappreciated the Fed leading up to today but to say he's wrong about more failures or a recession is still premature. We have at least another year of tight financial conditions to wade through. Let's see how these latest calls perform 12-24 months out.

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Tony Conflitti - it's sexy to play the Oracle no?

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Simon Mulholland, CFA

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Nouriel Roubini also predicted 2008 and he also gave me the single worst piece of investment advice I ever heard

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Ditto with John Paulson, chasing performance is a fools errand

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Charles-Henry Monchau, CFA, CMT, CAIAAs they say, timing is everything...Something tells me his recent bet might be bang on...time will tell.2008 was one donimo (cdo's) which were contained23/24 there are 20 dominos and it might not be containable?US debt - gov't, consumer, unfunded liabilites is greater that $350T i.e. $1m per person, income tax collects $2.5t and is only paid by approx 30% of the population.The rest of the world is no different and China is showing cracks everywhere where wealth is mainly in real estate vs. stocks/bonds. i.e more concentrated in illiquid assets.23/24 is going to be one HELL of a ride!

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Roderick Mann I just saw this post. There it is bud....as you were saying. Fyi....I've been in 2 posts in day 2 involving this guy....#3 now. Iow, that's enough for me wrt this gunslinger. Tom Basso ...promise, last tag involving this guy - "Batter up - cmon Michael, don't worry about getting on base. You see the Green Monster? - cmon....home run it and over that wall. I trust you can put that home run ball through the BAC window on Lansdowne St.".

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Michael Burry's PredictionsWe thank Charles-Henry Monchau for making us aware of this contrarian investor's predictions.After careful examination of the predictions of M.B. we have come to the conclusion that the price string used for the forecast is probably not correct.Using various strings of prices with many simulations I came to the result that if you use a certain string of data containing strong distortions (manipulations)the prediction also undergoes a considerable distortion, and in fact I have arrived at several predictive models that gave answers similar to those of M.B.A string of prices that has not undergone alterations must be used because this will give the most correct forecast, to which the price will tend.However, be careful that if the real model then undergoes strong distortions, even the entire predictive model obtained previously must undergo (en bloc) alterations along the time axis and along the price axis to adapt it to the jolts.In summary, the application of Fourier analysis, like all Technical Analysis, is an art that requires long study and long practice.Below is an example of a long-term prediction using a relatively short but fairly correct price sample.

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